I suppose you could also decorate a fair area of wall with gold leaf and a fine tipped brush! Think I saw Fred Dibnah doing that to his home made weather vane.
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neutronix
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Head off to Roy Fellows' website for the low down
http://www.royfellows.uk/MineExplorer/Parc and Aspinall.pdf
http://www.royfellows.uk/MineExplorer/Parc and Aspinall.pdf
davel
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Mr Basset et al. are of course correct.
I can just imagine the stage coaches of the rich people going down the lanes . There are many accounts of the neighbouring miners seeing this .
I started writing a book "The Great 19th Century Mining Swindle", but never got to finish it. It was about the escapades of the notorious Joseph Fell who was a key operator of the Alltycrib Mine and responsible for a massive fraud, the Cambrian Mining Syndicate at the Esgair Fraith mine some distance away. He never spent a day in jail in his life.
Ible Quarry (Dolerite), at the top end of the Via Gellia - in the 1920s, the Hodsons (who also operated Blober Mine at Wirksworth) found a gold-bearing quartz vein and sunk a trial shaft. They had a sample assayed in Sheffield and IIRC that came back at 10oz per ton of quartz, which is potentially viable but the vein pinched out quickly so they abandoned the venture. Tom Hodson gave the paperwork from this to Jim Rieuwerts, and it's now in the Derbyshire Record Office. The shaft is still visible, though run-in - you can see it on this lidar image
The only one I was aware of was Point of Ayr in North Wales. It appears though that some of the North East collieries are undersea where the coal measures dip eastwards under the North Sea. This is an interesting article I found. You have to register (for free) to view the whole article.
And a rather more straighfroward website link: https://www.fusilier.co.uk/northumb...hill_amble_undersea_project_dr_eric_wade.html
And a rather more straighfroward website link: https://www.fusilier.co.uk/northumb...hill_amble_undersea_project_dr_eric_wade.html
A couple of interesting things, related to shipwrecks, mines, and undersea workings .
"Naval Mines" - the explosive ones with horns, magnetic sensors or other detectors were re-purposed, after WWII, into collecting boxes for the charity The Shipwrecked Mariners Society.
shipwreckedmariners.org.uk
Some of the coal mines of the west coast of Cumbria extended under the Solway Firth
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Situated on the coast, the underground workings of the mine spread westwards out under the Irish Sea and mining was undertaken at over 4 miles (6.4 km) out underneath the sea bed.
[A couple of my ancestors on my mother's side were coal miners around 1870/80 first in Campbeltown (presumably the Machrihanish Coalfield) and then Maryport]
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The proposed Woodhouse Colliery would extend under the sea, too.
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"Naval Mines" - the explosive ones with horns, magnetic sensors or other detectors were re-purposed, after WWII, into collecting boxes for the charity The Shipwrecked Mariners Society.
Mine to Mine Challenge - Shipwrecked Mariners' Society
Calling On Volunteers to Visit Our ex-WW2 Sea Mines Seventy years after they were used in the defence of Britain’s coast and harbours, our society is on the lookout for budding adventurers to visit our red sea mines which are now used as charity collection boxes. We are calling on volunteers to...
shipwreckedmariners.org.uk
Some of the coal mines of the west coast of Cumbria extended under the Solway Firth
Haig Colliery - Wikipedia
[A couple of my ancestors on my mother's side were coal miners around 1870/80 first in Campbeltown (presumably the Machrihanish Coalfield) and then Maryport]
Machrihanish Coalfield - Wikipedia
The proposed Woodhouse Colliery would extend under the sea, too.
Woodhouse Colliery - Wikipedia
Culross colliery in Fife had a shaft in the middle of the estuary. There's a story about King James (I can't remember which one) being taken down and coming out in the sea.
He accused the managers of trying to kill him before taking a boat to the shore.
He accused the managers of trying to kill him before taking a boat to the shore.
Cunningham 1902 - Scottish Mining Website
History of Scottish Mining and mining areas of Scotland including housing, health, mining accidents and disasters.
www.scottishmining.co.uk
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Lots of coal is underneath the sea, the Kent ones for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Coalfield
Tom's Naval comment prompted the following question.
What's the source of the word Navigation in the names of so many Welsh collieries? Bettws, Bedwas, Bryn, Cambrian, Cardiff, Deep and indeed a couple just called Navigation.
Most definitions of Navigation are along the lines of monitoring and controlling the movements of a craft or vessel from one location to another.
Is there a ship based analogy in play here? Or maybe canal building where the navvies excavated channels for the waterways?
What's the source of the word Navigation in the names of so many Welsh collieries? Bettws, Bedwas, Bryn, Cambrian, Cardiff, Deep and indeed a couple just called Navigation.
Most definitions of Navigation are along the lines of monitoring and controlling the movements of a craft or vessel from one location to another.
Is there a ship based analogy in play here? Or maybe canal building where the navvies excavated channels for the waterways?
The term Captain for someone in charge of a mine I believe originated in Cornwall. Most of the captains in connection with Welsh mines have distinctly Cornish surnames: Borelase, Kitto, Kneebone (was he a captain?). So was the Cornish Captain derived from the nautical captain, or just captain as in sense of being a leader?
Submarine Mines | Not Your Grandfathers Mining Industry, Nova Scotia, Canada
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The_Bogieman
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I believe that was Pandora in the Conwy Valley, Dave. The horn was to alert 'miners' that the Boss was coming with rich ladies who would invest in the mine, which he'd salted with shiny ore to impress the ladies and they were to look very busy...
Cheers, Clive
The_Bogieman
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The Denhall and Wirral Collieries further up the Dee Estuary also operated under the sea and the levels were underground canals bringing the coal from the faces to the winding shafts. The Bettisfield Colliery on the Welsh side of the estuary, near Connah's Quay also operated out under the Dee, as did Mostyn Colliery nearly at Point of Ayr.
On the subject of underground canals
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The Worsley Navigable Levels are an extensive series of coal mines in Worsley in the City of Salford in Greater Manchester, England. They were worked largely by the use of underground canals (the navigable levels) and boats called starvationers.
Also nearby, and of interest
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Worsley Navigable Levels - Wikipedia
Also nearby, and of interest
Wet Earth Colliery - Wikipedia
davel
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Correct story but the wrong mine I'm afraid.
As Mr Basset and others replied correctly yesterday, it was Klondyke (admittedly, not that far from Pandora).
Dave