Run-in Hopper. Nenthead.

The Cretin

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I was in Caplecleugh yesterday.
There’s a hopper run-in, blocking virtually all of the level (we managed to crawl through a small gap, but there’s more to come down when the rest of the timber goes, soon I’d imagine.).

The hopper would be No.5 or No.6 on Caplecleugh Vein, on the plan, so right between Toilet Box Junction and No.11 hopper, with the manway to the flats.

The water is obviously much deeper inbye of there - it’s backing up a fair bit.
I can’t see the fall getting sorted any time soon either, unfortunately.

It’s just a heads up for folk - after that idiot on here recently, I’m not interested in replies.

Cheers.

Leif.
 
Thanks for this. I know exactly where you are. The climb up to north flats is VM no 9 rise, the bigger fall further to the east that holds back a lot of water with little air space is VM no 13.
Would I be correct in thinking that main issue with remediation is the fact that all the timber is rotten in the hopper and whole lot will go?

I see a big team effort required with taking materials in.
When I was pushing high level there was a point where stuff was pouring through a small gap but really liquid mud like concrete. I took in a rolled up piece of corrugated and git it in. There is always a way.
My trouble is getting older and can not do as much as I used to, have to face this.

I would not worry about the idiot, he's gone and rid of.
 
Thanks for this. I know exactly where you are. The climb up to north flats is VM no 9 rise, the bigger fall further to the east that holds back a lot of water with little air space is VM no 13.
Would I be correct in thinking that main issue with remediation is the fact that all the timber is rotten in the hopper and whole lot will go?

I see a big team effort required with taking materials in.
When I was pushing high level there was a point where stuff was pouring through a small gap but really liquid mud like concrete. I took in a rolled up piece of corrugated and git it in. There is always a way.
My trouble is getting older and can not do as much as I used to, have to face this.

I would not worry about the idiot, he's gone and rid of.
Sorry, No.9 rise, rather than No.11.

Yes, it has run because the timber had rotted out, or at least one side of it has.
Luckily, the hopper isn’t full, or didn’t look to be, so there won’t be loads left to drop - it’ll be enough to block the level though I suspect.

In my view, it’s probably worth just waiting for the lot to go, then dealing with it after - there’s a whole mishmash of ladders, staging and hopper above, which may or may not also be buggered.
There’s nothing worse than putting a load of effort in, just for it all to drop down again.

It’s a bit of a pig of a place to get materials in to sort it. I don’t think it’d need serious scaff bar effort though. Sandbags and possibly some pipe would probably do.
 
I agree completely, wait until it all goes, be safer to work there as well.
I have used sanbags a lot, modern systhetic fible ones dont rot.

How Caplecleugh has changed since Martin Critchley wrote the book. Big shame.
 
Leif, I have just received delivery of some sandbags, if you need any give me a shout before Saturday evening, I'll do them at cost.

I think I paid about 38p each.

You can also pinch the roofing sheets inside Rampgill portal if needed

MARK
 
I agree completely, wait until it all goes, be safer to work there as well.
I have used sanbags a lot, modern systhetic fible ones dont rot.

How Caplecleugh has changed since Martin Critchley wrote the book. Big shame.
I can’t see it getting sorted any time soon, if I’m honest.

We don’t have the time or the inclination, certainly not in the near-term.

The two dig teams who would be ideal to look at it are more than busy with their own long term projects.

If someone else feels like having a pop, then best of luck.
 
Leif, I have just received delivery of some sandbags, if you need any give me a shout before Saturday evening, I'll do them at cost.

I think I paid about 38p each.

You can also pinch the roofing sheets inside Rampgill portal if needed

MARK
Cheers for the offer Mark, but we’re unlikely to get around to sorting it.
Not enough time for the huge list of other projects up there as it is.

On another note, was it your vehicles we saw outside of Rampgill last night?
 
Cheers for the offer Mark, but we’re unlikely to get around to sorting it.
Not enough time for the huge list of other projects up there as it is.

On another note, was it your vehicles we saw outside of Rampgill last night?
We have got 8 of us travelling upto Nenthead in June if you need a hand with some remedial work, we'll be there for 3 nights
 
Cheers for the offer Mark, but we’re unlikely to get around to sorting it.
Not enough time for the huge list of other projects up there as it is.

On another note, was it your vehicles we saw outside of Rampgill last night?
Yes, we usually do Thursdays. The red 'stealth' Mini is a bit giveaway.

Agree, too many things need looking at and not enough time to get round to them all, especially the ones involving a long haul.

That said, I will be happy to assist in any way possible if asked

HAGW MARK
 
Likewise if there ever the need for a big effort with one of these more remote digs then we can also put bodies on the ground.
 
Thinking about it, if anyone does tackle it, probably just three or four people would be optimum.
The area is quite confined and very wet.

I do wonder whether all of this rain will have any effect on it - the debris was that really wet, shitty fine stuff.
Caplecleugh, as you’re probably aware, takes a lot of drainage, with the water level rising substantially after a good downpour.
 
Just a comment. When I was pushing the high level, there was ablockage that was like liquid concrete puring through a hole in the arching of a mere 8 inches. I had to take a rolled up piece of corrogated steel in the and use, sacrelidge I know, a VM arch former to secure it. I was amazed at the meterial that had poured through such a small gap.
 
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